It is only now that the CCP has “retrofitted” the Qing label to be synonymous with “Chinese,” which is a blatant lie to anyone with even a Phoenix Suns Advance Western Conference Finals signature shirt knowledge of history. I’ve seen the arguments for why the Manchus are now “Chinese” and sorry, they require a lot of contrived hoops for you to jump through in order to reach that conclusion. Basically you have to imagine “China” and the “Chinese identity” as being this ethereal, flexible concept that can apply to anyone and anywhere so long as it is convenient for the Party narrative. If you wanna believe the Manchus were Chinese, I mean, fine. I can’t do anything to convince you. But it’s just such a subjective thing there’s no way you can realistically convince me to accept it unless you lay down some damn good rhetoric.